Saturday, June 16, 2012

Game Wrap 6/16/2012: Mariners 7 Giants 4

Same song next verse....it's gettting to be a broken record for Tim Lincecum, or Groundhog Day.  You get the picture.  Timmy gave up two dingers in the first inning.  The offense fought back and staked him to a 4-2 lead in the 4'th inning, but it wouldn't last long as Timmy coughed up the lead and Jeremy Affeldt let it get farther in the rearview mirror in the 6'th.  Key Lines:

Ryan Theriot- 3 for 5, 2 SB(6).  BA= .263.  Riot had been slumping for about a week but broke out of it tonight.

Brandon Belt- 1 for 3, BB.  BA= .248.  Belt has a 5 game hit streak in which he is hitting .412.

Brandon Crawford- 2 for 4, 2B.  BA= .231.  Crawford is hitting .276.

Tim Lincecum- 5 IP, 5 H, 5 R, 2 BB, 6 K.  ERA= 6.19.  Not much more to say here.  This has sadly become a familiar line and familiar story for Timmy this year.  Very disconcerting.

George Kontos- 2 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K's.  ERA= 0.00.  Kontos pitches well in mop-up time.

Fortunately, the Dodgers lost to the ChiSox 5-4 so the Giants stay 4 games behind the NL West leaders.  The Braves also lost so the Giants also maintain a 1.5 game lead for the first Wild Card spot.

Madison Bumgarner goes against Felix Hernandez in the final game of the series tomorrow afternoon.

16 comments:

  1. Read a piece on ESPN by Jim Bowden i think, that he says he thinks lincecum is hurt similarly to the way Phil Hughes was hurt last year. Even though he may not feel pain the slight inflammation or whatever, can cause him to lose his release point.

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  2. hurt or not, he has to go on the dl. a skipped start or continuing to send him out every 5th day, like nothing is wrong, is not gonna fix anything

    im curious why bochy sent out affeldt and not loux, when he knew he needed at least 2 ip from an arm...and affeldt is usually used after the 7th

    doesnt matter....raggs doesnt know how to fix timmy, timmy doesnt know how to fix timmy...timmy wont talk to dad...bonds says he knows how to fix timmy, but i dont think timmy will talk to bonds....but if timmy wants to ponder his navel, ala zito of the past...let him....in the 100 degree weather of fresno...but not in the show

    i have spoken

    i was watching all of this on japanese tv...believe it or not, after timmy got pulled, they cut to news....japan doesnt care about ichiro anymore...who knew?

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    1. That was a key part of the game, tie game, Mariners threatening, you want to shut the rally down, Affeldt was the right guy to put in there, saving Lopez and Romo for the 7/8 as necessary. Plus he can go for more than one innings as well.

      Unfortunately, a lot of what you have spoken has not really come to fruition, but I'll give you that, you keep on trying.

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    2. a man on first is not "threatening"

      and as you spend a lot of time on these boards contemplating your navel, without ever questioning the moves of bochy or sabean...maybe you too could benefit from a couple of weeks in the fresno sun

      really not sure why you spend so much time typing so many words when all you have to do is type 8...bochy is a genius, sabean is a genius

      you can even just cut and paste...save oodles of time

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    3. bacci,

      Sorry but I gotta say your evaluation is way off. You are really telling me in a tie game you would put in Loux over Affeldt? Boy am I glad you aren't the manager.

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    4. I think Affeldt was the right move. He often pitches 2 innings, although I'm also not sure why the 2 innings necessarily had to come from one pitcher. He just didn't get the job done.

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    5. Affeldt sucks. I think I may have mentioned that a time or two before. I think I also mentioned that we should have traded Timmy in the offseason but that was just crazy talk. Is Arias all of a sudden in a platoon with Crawford at SS now that Panda is back? Weird.

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    6. i think jeremy is good

      i think keeping 2 guys in your pen you dont trust in most situations is bad

      if loux cant be trusted to go 2 in a tie game...release him

      i know they are trying to convert penny to take on that role...not gonna happen

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    7. Since it appears to escape your comprehension bacci, I will restate for those who don't know me well.

      I've never said that Sabean or Bochy are geniuses. Nor have I intimated that either, if I really thought that they were geniuses, I would not have went onto MCC to celebrate their 2 year extensions, I would have ripped the Giants a new one for not signing them up for life. Heck, I would want them to do what the A's did and GIVE part ownership of the team to Sabean, like the A's did with Beane.

      I've also complained about moves. I still talk about the Maddux Money (now called Rainy Day Fund) which costed them the opportunity to have signed up Vlad. Instead, the owners chose mediocrity and what the Giants did would not have been greatly different in terms of budget, $1-2M difference, had they gotten Vlad and settled for a few of the Seven Dwarves that they picked up instead. I was against the Rowand signing, as the contract priced in that Rowand would basically have to hit as well as his peak seasons for it to pay off for us. People thought I was for the signing because I noted that there was some good chance that he might pay off, given what he did before, and he was worth the contract the first 4 months or so of the contract, but who knew that once he got his big contract he would slack off on his conditioning? I still think if he would have done what Pablo done by using professionals to get into shape, he could still be playing now and at least earning some of his contract. Zito gets brought up all the time as the worse contract, but we lost more on Rowand contract I think, or at minimum, got less back as a percentage. And Zito was a high risk move as well that I pointed out. I just generally don't like big signs like that, Vlad yeah, Zito, not at all, heck, I was uncomfortable with the Bonds deal but at least that one worked out for the most part.

      Though, since you got me thinking about this, after my discovery that Bochy is the only NL manager to consistently run up a winning record in 1-run games (my stats showed that he owns 40% of all the seasons with at last 8 games over .500 in one-run games, despite managing only around 6-7% of them; he on average is 4 games over .500 in one run games), I guess that is a pretty good sign of genius, doing something no other NL manager can do (Dusty is good too, but at under half Bochy's rate, Cox was good but not so much in his latter seasons, Johnson was good for the Mets then disappeared, or was that Valentime?, LaRussa was never good at this though).

      But I'm still OK with 2 year extensions, in baseball today's geniuses can be tomorrow's also-rans (just look at Beane now), and like Cox, who knows when Bochy's great string ends (not ending this year so far, I think he's 14-11 now).

      You are one to talk: "I have spoken" I think that is the main problem. You spoke a lot at my blog awhile back, but I think the Giants of the past few years showed that you clearly were not the one who was right.

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    8. Really, you would release any pitcher who can't be trusted to go 2 in a tie game?

      There is an army of middle relievers who probably want your head now, there are plenty of players who can't be "trusted" but get put in there anyway, baseball has been like that, like, forever, there aren't enough pitchers to go around for every team to have such great relievers, unless we buy even more expensive relievers, and I think we already have more relievers we can rely on in a tie game than most teams as it is. And Romo can't be trusted to go 2 in a tie game, not that he can't do well, but I would not put his arm through such stress as that would blow it out, still, under this edict of yours he's gone.

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  3. hat trick, golden sombrero....what do you call it when someone k's 5x and goes 0 for 7?

    congrats to bryce howard for staying in the news, even on the worst of days

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    1. Here's a list of players who struck out 5 times in one game before age 25: Sammy Sosa, Bo Jackson, George Foster, Scott Rolen, Adam Dunn, Reggie Jackson, Dick Allen.

      Not really as big a deal as it seems.

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    2. Good list. Thanks Dr.B. I wish I had that earlier in the season to let Belt know.

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  4. oops...harper...not howard

    sorry...dont like either player, so they morphed into one

    it was a clown comment

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    1. Now this fits in with what I was talking about above: "clown comments"

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